{"id":127,"date":"2008-06-12T18:08:39","date_gmt":"2008-06-13T02:08:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/?p=127"},"modified":"2008-10-07T14:56:35","modified_gmt":"2008-10-07T22:56:35","slug":"bob-yak-plus-versus-ibex-versus-panniers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/2008\/06\/bob-yak-plus-versus-ibex-versus-panniers\/","title":{"rendered":"B.O.B. Yak Plus versus Ibex versus Panniers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<h3>Trailers versus Panniers<\/h3>\n<p>Based upon my online research, the trailer versus pannier debate will rage on forever.  Panniers have the advantage of not requiring you to worry about a trailer.  Trailers have the advantage of reducing your frontal area (and therefore wind drag), and in theory don&#8217;t require wheels nor frame as beefy as those needed to haul gear in panniers.<\/p>\n<p>Both panniers and trailers can negatively affect handling.  The degree to which they do, and the respective solutions, seem to vary tremendously by usage patterns.  Overloading a trailer, particularly while putting most of the weight forward, is sure to cause handling trouble.  Similarly, a heavy, low-slung rear pannier can badly disrupt handling.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, there is no clear winner on any objective, universal, technical basis.  It seems to be a personal decision, based upon one&#8217;s intended usage.  Therefore, since I really don&#8217;t see any reason to own yet another bicycle solely for mid-weight touring, I will be buying a BOB trailer and attaching it to my carbon-framed, triple-chainring roadbike.<\/p>\n<p>Now the question becomes, which trailer to purchase?<\/p>\n<h3>The Trailers<\/h3>\n<p>BOB makes two trailers, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bobgear.com\/trailers\/trailer_specs.php?product_id=11\">Ibex<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bobgear.com\/trailers\/trailer_specs.php?product_id=10&#038;type=dims\">Yak<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<a href='http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/06\/bob_ibex.jpg' title='BOB Ibex trailer'><img src='http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/06\/bob_ibex.thumbnail.jpg' alt='BOB Ibex trailer' \/><\/a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/06\/bob_yak.jpg' title='BOB Yak trailer'><img src='http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/06\/bob_yak.thumbnail.jpg' alt='BOB Yak trailer' \/><\/a>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Ibex offers 3&#8243; of adjustable, damped suspension travel, weighs 3.5 pounds more, is silver instead of black, and costs an extra $70.<\/p>\n<h3>Nomenclature<\/h3>\n<p>The only difference between the base and the &#8220;PLUS&#8221; models is the inclusion of the yellow, roll-top BOB bag (&#8220;DRY SAK&#8221; dry bag).  The &#8220;28&#8221; versions are for 28&#8243; wheels, 29&#8243; mountain bikes, and 700cc road bikes <b>with full-wrap fenders<\/b>.<\/p>\n<h3>Specifications<\/h3>\n<p>This section lists the specifications for each, as reported on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bobgear.com\/\">BOB website<\/a>.  All differences are listed in <b>bold<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>Ibex:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li \/>MSRP:  <b>$369<\/b>, <b>$399<\/b> for PLUS model with &#8220;DRY SAK&#8221; bag.\n<li \/>Suspension:  <b>3&#8243;, adjustable<\/b>\n<li \/>Weight:  <b>17<\/b> Lbs (<b>7.7<\/b> kgs)\n<li \/>Capacity:  70 Lbs (32 kgs)\n<li \/>Wheel:  28 spoke, aluminum rim, cartridge bearings, 16 x <b>2.125&#8243;<\/b> tire\n<li \/>Cargo area:  approx 25&#8243; x 16&#8243; x 18&#8243; (64cm x 41cm x 46cm)\n<li \/>Included:  quick release attachment system with spare attachment pin, bungee, flag, fender, reflectors\n<li \/>Color:  <b>gray?<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Yak:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li \/>MSRP:  <b>$299<\/b>, <b>$329<\/b> for PLUS model with &#8220;DRY SAK&#8221; bag.\n<li \/>Suspension:  <b>none<\/b>\n<li \/>Weight:  <b>13.5<\/b> Lbs (<b>6.1<\/b> kgs)\n<li \/>Capacity:  70 Lbs (32 kgs)\n<li \/>Wheel:  28 spoke, aluminum rim, cartridge bearings, 16 x <b>1.75&#8243;<\/b> tire\n<li \/>Cargo area:  approx 25&#8243; x 16&#8243; x 18&#8243; (64cm x 41cm x 46cm)\n<li \/>Included:  quick release attachment system with spare attachment pin, spider bungee, flag, fender, reflectors\n<li \/>Color:  <b>black<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Additional Information<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/bicyclehangar.googlepages.com\/bobibextrailermissoula\">This page<\/a> provides far better photos of the Ibex than does their website.  Also &#8212; again, unlike the website &#8212; it explains exactly how the shock absorber is &#8220;adjustable&#8221;.  You can move the lower mounting point for different leverage, and you can increase the spring preload.  Additionally, <a href=\"http:\/\/bicyclehangar.googlepages.com\/bobtrailermissoula\">their Yak page<\/a> shows exactly how the trailers mount to the bicycle.<\/p>\n<h3>Which to Choose?<\/h3>\n<h4>The Internets<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.trek4fun.com\/great_divide_trail\/gdt_bob_trailer.htm\">This guy<\/a> used a BOB Ibex behind a hard-tail mountain bike on the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Great_Divide_Mountain_Bike_Route\">Great Divide Route<\/a> and has generally very positive things to say about it.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bikeforums.net\/archive\/index.php\/t-291810.html\">This thread<\/a> compares the Yak to the Ibex.  Several references are made to high-speed weaving and instability with the unsuspended Yak, which is said to be absent from the suspended Ibex, but some also say that this is simply due to improper loading.<\/p>\n<h4>My Decision<\/h4>\n<p>It sounds like the Ibex <b>may<\/b> reduce the chance of handling problems, particularly at high speeds.  Since the downside is 3.5 pounds, and since I don&#8217;t believe that 3.5 pounds of rolling weight will be noticeable, I intend to purchase a BOB Ibex.<\/p>\n<p>I will probably replace the 2.125&#8243; Ibex tire with a 1.75&#8243; slick, since I think rolling resistance is more likely to be felt than the absolute weight difference.<\/p>\n<h4>Followup<\/h4>\n<p>I bought the BOB Ibex and, sadly, decided that it sucks.  I will be returning it next weekend.  More details later.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trailers versus Panniers Based upon my online research, the trailer versus pannier debate will rage on forever. Panniers have the advantage of not requiring you to worry about a trailer. 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