{"id":422,"date":"2008-11-13T22:01:49","date_gmt":"2008-11-14T06:01:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/?p=422"},"modified":"2010-04-24T04:03:44","modified_gmt":"2010-04-23T19:03:44","slug":"mountain-bike-to-cyclocrosstouring-conversion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/2008\/11\/mountain-bike-to-cyclocrosstouring-conversion\/","title":{"rendered":"Mountain Bike to Cyclocross\/Touring Conversion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I need a touring bike, and I&#8217;m on a budget.  My old Barracuda AM2, aluminum-framed mountain bike frame is tapped for rear pannier mounts, so perhaps a conversion is in order.<\/p>\n<p>As I quickly found out, there&#8217;s a lot more to fitting drop bars and a rigid fork onto a mountain frame than I had expected.  Hopefully, this will help clear things up for the next person who tries.<\/p>\n<h3>Forks<\/h3>\n<p>There&#8217;s no point in having that crummy Manitou Pro X suspension fork soaking up all my energy if I&#8217;m just touring.  Besides, there are no provisions for mounting a rack.  A rigid fork is in order.<\/p>\n<p>Since this is going onto a mountain bike frame which was designed for a suspension fork (typically around 80mm of additional height), a &#8220;suspension corrected&#8221; fork is required.<\/p>\n<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 align=\"center\">\n<tr bgcolor=\"#AAAAAA\">\n<th>Name<\/th>\n<th>Size<\/th>\n<th>Brakes<\/th>\n<th>Braze-<br \/>ons<\/th>\n<th>Axle-<br \/>to-Crown<\/th>\n<th>Rake<\/th>\n<th>Weight<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgcolor=\"#EEEEEE\">\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.surlybikes.com\/forks\/1x1_pop.html\">Surly 1&#215;1<br \/>FK0001<\/a><\/td>\n<td>26&#8243;x2.7&#8243;<\/td>\n<td>canti<\/td>\n<td>fender<\/td>\n<td>413mm<\/td>\n<td>45mm<\/td>\n<td>2.27 Lbs<br \/>(1.03kg)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgcolor=\"#DDDDDD\">\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/surlybikes.com\/parts\/1x1_fork\/\">Surly 1&#215;1<br \/>FK0003<\/a><\/td>\n<td>26&#8243;x2.7&#8243;<\/td>\n<td>canti +<br \/>Disk<\/td>\n<td>fender<\/td>\n<td>413mm<\/td>\n<td>45mm<\/td>\n<td>2.34 Lbs<br \/>(1.1kg)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgcolor=\"#EEEEEE\">\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/surlybikes.com\/parts\/big_dummy_fork\/\">Surly Big Dummy<\/a><\/td>\n<td>26&#8243;x2.5&#8243;<\/td>\n<td>canti +<br \/>Disk<\/td>\n<td>fender+<br \/>rack<\/td>\n<td>425mm<\/td>\n<td>43mm<\/td>\n<td>2.9 Lbs<br \/>(1.3kg)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgcolor=\"#DDDDDD\">\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/surlybikes.com\/parts\/long_haul_trucker_fork\/\">Long Haul<br \/>Trucker<\/td>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<td>26&#8243;x2.1&#8243;<\/td>\n<td>canti<\/td>\n<td>fender +<br \/>rack<\/td>\n<td>376mm<\/td>\n<td>45mm<\/td>\n<td>2.11 Lbs<br \/>(0.96kg)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgcolor=\"#EEEEEE\">\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.surlybikes.com\/forks\/LHT_pop.html\">Long Haul<br \/>Trucker<\/a><\/td>\n<td>700Cx44mm<\/td>\n<td>canti<\/td>\n<td>fender +<br \/>rack<\/td>\n<td>390mm<\/td>\n<td>45mm<\/td>\n<td>2.25 Lbs<br \/>(1.02kg)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgcolor=\"#DDDDDD\">\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.salsacycles.com\/forks.html\">Salsa CroMoto<br \/>FK0013<\/a><\/td>\n<td>26&#8243;x?<\/td>\n<td>disk<\/td>\n<td>fender<\/td>\n<td>445mm<\/td>\n<td>41mm<\/td>\n<td>2.2 Lbs<br \/>(1.0kg)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgcolor=\"#EEEEEE\">\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.salsacycles.com\/forks.html\">Salsa CroMoto<br \/>FK0010<\/a><\/td>\n<td>26&#8243;x?<\/td>\n<td>canti +<br \/>disk<\/td>\n<td>fender<\/td>\n<td>425mm<\/td>\n<td>41mm<\/td>\n<td>2.2 Lbs<br \/>(1.0kg)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgcolor=\"#DDDDDD\">\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nashbar.com\/profile_moreimages.cfm?category=&#038;subcategory=&#038;sku=13283&#038;brand=0001\">Nashbar 700C<\/a><\/td>\n<td>700Cx?<\/td>\n<td>canti + disk<\/td>\n<td>fender<\/td>\n<td>??<\/td>\n<td>45mm<\/td>\n<td>2.93<br \/>(1.33kg)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Notes:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li \/>The Nashbar fork does not seem to be suspension-corrected.\n<li \/>Notice that the Salsa and Surly model numbers seem similar?  That&#8217;s because they&#8217;re owned by the same parent company, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.qbp.com\/\">Quality Bicycle Products<\/a>.\n<li \/>To my knowledge, the only difference between a fender eyelet\/braze-on and a rack eyelet is which side of the fork it&#8217;s on.  According to everything I&#8217;ve read, there&#8217;s absolutely no reason you can&#8217;t support a rack with a &#8220;fender&#8221; eyelet.\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Shifters<\/h3>\n<p>As much as I would love to have Ultegra 9-speed STI shifters like on my Cannondale road bike, I don&#8217;t have $300 to spare (also, they aren&#8217;t compatible with V-Brakes, see below).  Instead, I will use bar-end shifters, which are cheap and rugged.<\/p>\n<p>Two Shimano bar-end shifters are currently available: the Ultegra 8-speed shifter, and the Dura-Ace 9-speed shifter.  <b>The indexing of the 8-speed shifter is incompatible with 9- and 10-speed derailleurs<\/b>.  However, friction-shifting (non-indexed) mode can be used regardless of the shifter\/derailleur combination.<\/p>\n<p>Regarding Dura-Ace compatibility, with <b>8-speed and older setups, Dura-Ace shifters were only compatible with Dura-Ace derailleurs<\/b> (the pull length was unique).  With 9-speed and 10-speed, however, Dura-Ace shifters work with any 9\/10-speed Shimano derailleurs.<\/p>\n<table align=\"center\">\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/sl-bs77-duraace9speed.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Shimano SL-BS77 9-Speed DuraAce Bar End Shifter\" width=\"140\" height=\"140\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-426\" \/><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/products?q=sl-bs77&#038;btnG=Search+Products\">SL-BS77<\/a><\/td>\n<td>Dura-Ace 9 speed &#8211; works with any 9-speed derailleur<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/sl-bs78-duraace10speed.jpg\" alt=\"Shimano SL-BS78 10-Speed DuraAce Bar End Shifter\" title=\"sl-bs78-duraace10speed\" width=\"140\" height=\"140\" class=\"size-full wp-image-425\" \/><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/products?q=sl-bs78&#038;btnG=Search+Products\">SL-BS78<\/td>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<td>Dura-Ace 10 speed &#8211; works with any 9\/10-speed derailleur<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/sl-bs64-ultegra8speed.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Shimano SL-BS64 8-Speed Ultegra Bar End Shifters\" width=\"127\" height=\"127\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-433\" \/><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/products?q=sl-bs64&#038;btnG=Search+Products\">SL-BS64<\/a><\/td>\n<td>8-Speed Ultegra Bar End Shifter &#8211; works with any 8-speed derailleur or, in friction mode, any 9\/10-speed derailleur<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h3>Brakes<\/h3>\n<p>Brake levers come in two types:  standard pull and long pull.  Standard pull levers are for use with classic cantilever brakes.  Long pull levers are for use with direct-pull (&#8220;V-Brake&#8221;) brakes.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/directpullpulleyadapter.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/directpullpulleyadapter-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Direct Pull Pulley Adapter\" title=\"Direct Pull Pulley Adapter\" width=\"150\" border=0 height=\"150\" style=\"padding: 4px; margin: 0 0 2px 7px; display: inline; float: right;\" \/><\/a>Normal road levers (such as all Shimano STI integrated brake\/shifters) are standard pull and require a pulley system such as a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/products?hl=en&#038;q=travel+agent+brake&#038;um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=product_result_group&#038;resnum=4&#038;ct=title\">QBP Travel Agent<\/a>, or a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/products?q=v-daptor&#038;btnG=Search+Products\">World Class V-Daptor<\/a> in order to work with V-Brakes.<\/p>\n<p>Additionally, while mountain bike brake levers have a built-in cable adjuster, road bikes do not.  So, a &#8216;noodle&#8217; with a built-in cable adjuster will be required, as shown in the Dia Compe 287V photo below.<\/p>\n<p><br style=\"clear:both;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>There are a few road-style brake levers which can be used directly directly with V-Brake style brakes, no adaptation required:<\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/diacompe287v.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Dia Compe 287V\" width=\"90\" height=\"90\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-465\" \/><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/products?hl=en&#038;q=Dia+Compe+287v&#038;um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=product_result_group&#038;resnum=1&#038;ct=title\">Dia Compe 287-V<\/a> (discontinued)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/canecreekdropv.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Cane Creek Drop V\" width=\"90\" height=\"90\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-466\" \/><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/products?hl=en&#038;q=%22cane+creek+drop+v%22&#038;um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=product_result_group&#038;resnum=1&#038;ct=title\">Cane Creek Drop V<\/a> (formerly SCR-5V?)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/tektrorl520.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Tektro RL520\" width=\"90\" height=\"90\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-467\" \/><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/products?hl=en&#038;q=tektro+RL520&#038;um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=product_result_group&#038;resnum=1&#038;ct=title\">Tektro RL520<\/a> (Tektro is said to be the same company as Cane Creek, but the levers seem to be half the price of the Cane Creeks&#8230;)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h3>Bars<\/h3>\n<p>It seems that just about any handlebars will do.  Salsa and FSA Omega seem to be popular choices, as listed below.  Cyclocross people seem to recommend going about 2cm wider than your usual road bar.  Since I&#8217;m most interested in touring, I&#8217;ll probably go with the same width as my road bikes.<\/p>\n<table align=\"center\">\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/salsamotoacebell.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Salsa Moto Ace Bell\" width=\"90\" height=\"90\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-471\" \/><\/td>\n<td>Salsa Moto Ace Bell Lap Anatomic ($34) 26mm x 42cm\/44cm\/46cm, 82mm reach, 144mm drop, 282g (2007 model listed at 261g)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/fsaomega.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"FSA Omega\" width=\"90\" height=\"90\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-472\" \/><\/td>\n<td>FSA Omega 31.8mm x 40cm\/42cm\/44cm, 80mm reach, 125mm drop, 300g<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>The FSA Omega comes standard on all of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.co-motion.com\/single_bikes\/single_bikes_tour.html\">Co-Motion&#8217;s touring singles<\/a>, which leads me to believe it&#8217;s a quality item in spite of its low price.<\/p>\n<h4>Cable Routing<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/arctichawk2003_shiftercablerouting.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.curlybrace.com\/words\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/arctichawk2003_shiftercablerouting-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"&#039;standard&#039; bar-end shifter cable routing\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" border=0 style=\"padding: 4px; margin: 0 0 2px 7px; display: inline; float: right;\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nNormally, the shifter cable exits the front of the bar-end shifter, is concealed under a few wraps of tape, then extends forward along the plane of bottom of the drop-bars, and arcs back around toward the head tube, as in the photo to the right (from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bikeforums.net\/archive\/index.php\/t-282549.html\">Arctic Hawk on BikeForums.net<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><br style=\"clear:both;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It is also possible to fully conceal the shifter cables by taping them against the handlebar, covered by handlebar tape until near the stem.  However, on larger frames, this will require a longer than standard shifter cable for the rear.  Cable and housing intended for a tandem bicycle will provide the necessary length.  Standard derailleur cables are 1700mm in length, while tandem cables are 3000mm.<\/p>\n<p>Also, when running this extra length, be sure to use Shimano (or other high-quality) cable and housing.  The extra length and curves will significantly increase resistance if high-quality cable and housing isn&#8217;t used.  (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bikeforums.net\/archive\/index.php\/t-117131.html\">source<\/a>)<\/p>\n<h3>Terminology<\/h3>\n<p>Some weird terminology that came up while researching this conversion.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li \/>Brifter &#8211; Integrated brake and shifter, such as Shimano&#8217;s STI lineup.\n<li \/>Bar-con &#8211; I have no idea what the origin of this is, but it seems to simply refer to bar-end shifters.\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I need a touring bike, and I&#8217;m on a budget. My old Barracuda AM2, aluminum-framed mountain bike frame is tapped for rear pannier mounts, so perhaps a conversion is in order. 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